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tl;cr meme

STEP ONE: Post with your character!
STEP TWO: Respond to other people's characters with your characters. They will then tell you, in detail, what their character thinks of yours -- and as per the meme's title, tl;dr is encouraged, but not necessary! Don't be afraid to ask others for their characters' first impressions of yours as well.
STEP THREE: Write out tl;dr for whoever comments to you in return.
STEP FOUR: Chat with each other in mutual joy/horror/disgust/delight/confusion at where your CR has gone!
BONUS: Use this for writing up CR charts, or if you already have them written, link to them!
(Stolen shamelessly from the Far Shore)
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tims experience with people like frisk, with whom he lives, has made him better about this kind of thing, but his solution thus far has been to tread...carefully. very carefully. he knows that if he says the wrong thing or implies something shion can internalize, it can have very vastly negative repercussions.
he can look at shion and understand that he takes the burden of other peoples flaws and shit and garbage onto himself. if tim says something harsh, its a reflection on shion for eliciting it, and not on tim for saying it in the first place. the way shions talked about him in storytellings and the like has tim both unnerved and kind of...embarrassed? that theres this idea that shion thinks tim is heroic or some kind of good person when tim wholeheartedly believes that he is really, really not. he puts the blame on himself when it comes to social slip-ups like the one that had shion apologizing, but his default is always to just kind of shut down and withdraw and trust that the other party will want nothing to do with him from there on out. obviously that didnt happen, so thats left him...uncertain on how best to proceed. if shion is determined to see the best in tim at the expense of himself, then how does tim rectify that when it seems to be something shions definitely gotten used to doing over a long period of time?
bottom line is tim doesnt know. hes still learning how to take care of the kids hes living with, let alone a bunch of other young people who are maybe not the best mental health wise lmao. the next step would be to start probing very gently to see where this kind of mindset may have originated for shion, but like i said, he knows he has to proceed super carefully so that shion doesnt come away thinking that this reflects poorly on himself. tim also knows that outright asking and pushing doesnt historically yield good results, so his current idea is basically to wait for a window he can capitalize on instead of bringing it up and questioning shion of his own accord.
for all his good intentions, tim is still manipulative as shit in how he navigates social circles. even if its largely benign these days (it isnt always), hes fully fucking aware that shions current positive perception of him will probably serve him well if he needs to start asking questions. the fucker.
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Tim seems to have a very good grip on Shion's general personality- In contrast Tim isn't like anyone Shion has ever met before. Since leaving his city he has met a bunch of people. Mostly these have either been good, hero types who are friendly open and kind - who get sad and scared and lash out but generally care for others. Or people like Rat or Reno who come across as mercenary, a bit brash, jerkish. Face the world with bitterness but actually are nice people under that and usually their maner is because they are hurting. Or straight out villains.
Tim doesn't fit into any of those broad catogaries and it confuses Shion a lot. He's not like anyone he's ever met. In Shion's mind he's kind and good but claims not to be. He is not open, does not seem to want friendship in the way that Shion has come to understand friendship.
Their cr started on a strange footing- neither of them were at their best or had had much sleep. Tim was injured and though Shion understood his refusal of more help as a selfless action... and the fact that Tim was being stubborn- something stopped him from pushing. And it has continued in that vain. Shion thinks he knows Tim when actually he doesn't know the first thing about him. He understands that Tim is not Okay but whereas Shion is often able to connect with people he struggles to even come to any common ground with Tim.
Some of this stems from how they are very different in their own ways of coping with the world(s)- Shion is a rediculously tactile person for example and so though he can understand and respect the fact Tim doesn't like touch he is lost on any other way to show friendly affection.
Though Tim doesn't fit into the broad catagory of hero Shion still has him as a good person and it will take a lot for Tim to ever disuade him otherwise- he's seen Tim go out of his way to make sure kids have birthdays, he's seen him try and help others even when injured and hurting himself. It would take something dramatic like hurting Aster for Shion to change his mind. He was the only person Connor could name as a friend and that seemed like a big thing to Shion then. Now he knows Connor so much better it is a huge thing.
Because Shion believes that he himself is not a good person and because of the internalising that Shion does- and the fact he is most likely to twist anything to reflect negatively on himself than positively he takes things from Tim harsher than he would from someone who he had not decided was a good, selfless person- part of the reason for the completely overblown reaction at the meeting.
Tim is older than Shion and clearly sees Shion as a kid. Shion is aware of this and is generally messed up about it because he feels that he is old enough to know better and so by seeing him as a child Tim is giving him more leeway than he should but on the flip side he's aware he's a mess and so maybe it's better that he only gets the disappointment from Tim that is softened by the fact Tim has a soft spot for kids.
So yeah it's all muddled but Shion genuinely likes Tim -if he didn't it wouldn't be such a mess.
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