tl;cr meme

[savedbyasong]

STEP ONE: Post with your character!
STEP TWO: Respond to other people's characters with your characters. They will then tell you, in detail, what their character thinks of yours -- and as per the meme's title, tl;dr is encouraged, but not necessary! Don't be afraid to ask others for their characters' first impressions of yours as well.
STEP THREE: Write out tl;dr for whoever comments to you in return.
STEP FOUR: Chat with each other in mutual joy/horror/disgust/delight/confusion at where your CR has gone!
BONUS: Use this for writing up CR charts, or if you already have them written, link to them!

(Stolen shamelessly from the Far Shore)

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[souldeterminant]

owo whats this? WE HECKED UP

[achievementhunter]

WELLY WELL WELL THIS IS A FINE FUCK UP WE'VE GOT HERE HUH?

There's something incredibly ironic about Frisk and Chara's relationship. And we've been playing them together for so long that I think we get the full effect of all the fantastic parallels and none of these are really going to surprise you-- but the first irony is that these parallels are absolutely the aspects of them that are destroying their relationship right now.

There's a lot Chara doesn't recognize. In a way, I think they do actually buy into Frisk being an Angel just as much, if not more than monsters do, because up until recently all of Frisk's transgressions were written off as not their fault. Someone always pushed them into it, it was self-defense, it was actually Chara. Chara is literally the IC equivalent of an Undertale fan who shoves them under the Down With Cis bus to excuse every bad quality Frisk has, except Chara runs over everyone before driving it off a cliff.

Which is where those parallels really fuck them over, because Frisk internalizes just as much, if not more than they do. Frisk is running on fumes just as much as Chara is. Frisk doesn't know what they want anymore, just like they don't.

Except Chara expects that they do have a goal. That they are driven and sure of it and that their wants haven't changed. So when all this seemingly abrupt change came through, Chara was totally blindsided.

They've woken up to the fact that Frisk can be selfish- which of course they can they're a goddamn child? Except instead of talking about how much it hurt them to have this-- ultimatum thrown at them; your Partner or the ERASURE your Partner asked for, the thing you thought they wanted, Chara internalized it. Just like Frisk internalized their feelings of abandonment when they discovered Chara's deal for permadeath.

The thing about containing all these emotions, however, is that they need the energy to do that? So after months of internalizing and deciding Frisk was to blame despite being a very consciously willing participant of ending it all despite their misgivings, the rubber band holding all of Chara's emotions in place- snapped. And then Chara snapping was the final stressor Frisk needed to snap. Both of them have a blisteringly icy anger as well, so there was this round robin of feeling unacknowledged by each other despite being painfully aware of each other(s absence) at all times.

Then there's what we talked about; the fact that neither of these kids has been in a fight that wasn't like, life or death? They're both- stuck, now, with the thought that they just tried to kill their Partner even if I could put 100 bucks on neither of them thinking the other was trying to kill them lmfao. Both of them have never had that give, before, both of them don't know what it's like to have a peaceful resolution, to have things not continuously devolve again and peace to be this brief, calm before the storm thing, so now that this has happened, neither knows that it's a situation that can be resolved.

Chara's opinion of Frisk isn't so much low as it is obscured by frustration and panic. If they open their mouth, something nasty is going to come out, something Frisk won't ignore, and the back and forth insult on top of injuries will lead to yet another round of "Chara attempts to kill Frisk with their bare hands." They don't know how to concede or compromise- neither does Frisk, and forgiveness is a very new, fragile thing to both of them that has never been utilized on something so heavy before, so important.

So yes. There is something very ironic about Chara and Frisk's relationship. More than the parallels about, however, is just how much of Frisk is Chara's-- everything. Up until this fight (and a few smaller elements since December), Chara's entire motivation has revolved around Frisk- keep them safe, hide their identity, keep them sheltered, fed, hydrated-- keep them alive so they can focus on what they want-- on what Chara had thought they wanted.

The truest irony of their relationship isn't the parallels destroying them right now, honestly. It's the fact that their first and most important parallel is that one word that defines them, and how it relates to the term 'Partner'. What Chara is really saying when they call Frisk their Partner.



After all, it'd be a little weird if they went around calling Frisk Determination, wouldn't it?